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How to pick the best skid loader, including the right brand, the correct size & which is better- Tires or Tracks. If you could only buy ONE-this will help you choose the right one. A skidloader is the #3 piece of Must have landscaping equipment. Skid steer tracks on amazon: https://amzn.to/2KvaDHt The OTT track company in this video: www.tracksandtires.com
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ase decraft (22 days ago)
Asv is tracked skid loader are good
Jason Messina (23 days ago)
Tracks Kubota 95-2s best skid steer I have ever owned. Its so strong the other day had a customer tell me I needed an excavator to remove a retaining wall behind a pool, went deep in the ground with heavy footers. I told him when he left I was going to get the excavator. Never had to, that Kubota has so much power.
Jaxen Watson (23 days ago)
i was driving my grandpa's s550 skidsteer radius liftpath i was leveling out a low spot in the yard and i kinda went out a little to far and i got stuck but lucky me i was able to get it out with no damage to the machine
Glad it worked out Jaxen, thanks for watching !
Robert L (1 month ago)
What's the benefits of having a skid steer vs a excavator?
Quinten Puckett (1 month ago)
That's a great video Sir
Appreciate that Quinten, thanks !
Harry Roger (1 month ago)
I think Bobcat is the best
John Monty (1 month ago)
I've worked with most skids and I have found that it really depends on the condition for certain types of tracks or tires. It just like you said if it hits all the right marks then it is best for the job. I found tire works best for plowing snow of which you know. Tracks don't work in the snow. Simple as that. If you're going for the fine grade then tracks are the way to go. You can still fine grade with tires but it's easier with tracks and more efficient. Like you said it all depends on the job. So go for the machine that can hit the most marks. I like your videos, my friend. KEEP IT Up!!!!!!!!!
Rice Creek bushcraft (1 month ago)
Working in the logging industry stacking logs loading trucks. Tracks are next to worthless on snow that gets packed and or turns to ice. Tired machine throw a set of chains on you can move around no problem without all the spinning and slipping. Tracks and maintenance are exuberantly expensive compared to tires. In saying that in sand and mud a track machine wins all day. I agree the best option for many, would be tires with a set of rubber tracks. But for people working in yards and dirt and mud and no pavement a dedicated track machine might be the best option. Great video. By the way I've owned a bobcat t300 and the same machine with tires.
Thomas Holzknecht (1 month ago)
I've got a cat 236 2008 with steel tracks. It has plenty of power. My only complaint , is the speed. Cat dealer is about a mile away from me, Great service. Love the machine and the service department.
Ferguson 20 diesel (1 month ago)
Dealer means nothing here unless you buy it new. Second hand stuff. You buy it you leave. Don’t want to see you again
Duncan Vincent (1 month ago)
Too much time on tracks vs wheels.... what about the pros cons of the units themselves?
Wayne Pickhardt (2 months ago)
Nice video Stan, personally I'd go with any New Holland on tracks.
Kyle Scray (2 months ago)
Awesome video Stan and very informative. Thanks
Thank you Kyle !
Steve Berry (2 months ago)
everyone if you need a skid steer get a medium kabota
dylan loppie (2 months ago)
Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good bank or company. For a small busines loan to get into the skid steer I want, just looking for some advice..
MIKE PHEBUS (2 months ago)
Lano Equipment, Gary and that Company top Notch. Best to you Mike Phebus (Metro Bobcat Inc) here in Maryland.
MIKE PHEBUS (2 months ago)
Watching your funny video about loading trailers. First section is funny. LOL
Thanks for watching Mike !
Willie James Murphy (2 months ago)
Would a mid size tracked machine handle big heavy 3000 pound large square and round hay bales in the field and loading trucks and trailers?
Chris Cardoza (2 months ago)
I would like to see more like this one and l was wandering do you use a small dozer on some of your projects....?
Chris Cardoza (2 months ago)
Case is my choice...
Hedda Hopper (2 months ago)
Make more videaos on Mini-loaders, equipment for hardscaping/landscaping
Greg Seal (2 months ago)
HAIR PRICELESS !!!!!
Tim Morrow (2 months ago)
I like the video especially the dealership advice. Unless u are an asphalt company/concrete company u shouldn’t think twice, tracks. The only track I’ve known to perform well on all surfaces are the rubber tracks with pads on them instead of small ridges. Operating is also a huge factor in the wear of these tracks. In my experience running over large limestone and sharp rock pieces are track killers. Between every small guide wheel a jagged rock can damage the tracks by putting a lot of stress on the stretched, unprotected part of the track. Thank you for putting out a great video!
Appreciate that Tim, thank you !
Paul Hudson (3 months ago)
I bought a Newholland L150. It was the lowest profile of all the makes in its class. Needed to get into a barn with a low ceiling. Has served me well for years.
Brad Thomas (3 months ago)
you should review a bobcat t450 .it is fast and has a lot of power
Good suggestion, thank you Brad!
John Gabriele (3 months ago)
Very informative .... This helps me prepare for my possible future business I'm thinking about building...
Great John , good luck and thanks !
Dale Steeper (3 months ago)
I have wheeled skid loaders. We put skinny snow tires on for the winter doing sidewalks. I have a set of camso tracks for 3 summer seasons with about 1000hrs on them and they are still good. Like you said you do have to be careful on dry asphalt or concrete or side hill you can de track them. I have sold them now and this coming season I have purchased a set of Right Tracks made in Alberta Can. they look really good and I am excited to put them on this coming spring. Tom the owner at Right Tracks says they will not de track and will not tear up the tires like the camso do. Check with me in May and see how I like them.
P M (3 months ago)
Also make one with a mini excavator. What to look for and what equitment to choose. How many hours can a maschine like thoes run? Im in the marked for one at the moment. And can find them with up to 30000 hour on the clock.
Great idea, thanks for the suggestion !
Murph dog (4 months ago)
I would go takes especially if your in a constriction business if a tire runs over a nail then your screwed and you need a new tire
Danny Elam (4 months ago)
A GEHL skid steer will give you carpel tunnel.
Dave Langefels (4 months ago)
Compact track loader VS Skid steer loader - what to buy. Don't buy a track machine unless you need it on your jobs 75% of the time or more. The two types of machines are comparable in many ways. Look at a Bobcat T190 and Bobcat S185. almost everything on the machine is exactly alike ....exceptions ROC, Drive system and weight. The track machine has a way higher owning and operating cost than the skid steer. The components are also way more expensive if you have a pump or motor failure. Final drive repairs can cost over $10,000 where a drive motor is like $2500. No doubt tracks give you performance but also take into account your expenses!
Dave Langefels (4 months ago)
The rubber tracks are made by a company called CAMSO which is now owned by Michelin. These tracks work very well in mud as you can see in the video.Three things to keep in mind you don't here from salespeople about these tracks. 1) They are expensive. Plan on spending $4000 plus. 2) They wear out. Theses tracks are going to last most people around 1500 hours. The "animals" will get 1000 hour and the "only drive it on Sunday" guys will get 2000 hours. 3) The Skid steer with OTT tracks can not grade on a slope like a track loader (CTL). You will see an improvement in performance but the CTL can hold the slope and the skid steer will not.
Luke millar (4 months ago)
Have you looked at articulated loaders as an alternative like the units offered by Avant, they are a great product that doesn’t damage the site compared to skid loaders
Stephen Cox (4 months ago)
Iv installed 10 sets of MWE rubber tracks and all of them have been top notch. I was able to get one set at 10pm one night. My customers were always happy with them as well.
Coin Siren (4 months ago)
Can tracks still work on Asphalt
station 23 Nys (4 months ago)
What are the names 4 the buckets Need For Snow removers n tiers
tyson Heise (4 months ago)
I have tracks on a 257D cat. i love them. Onley down fall is they dont like ice vary well.
Albert Bray (4 months ago)
Rubber tracks over tires are a great option . Your comments are right on the money. I dealt with MWE, and Solideal is now Camso. MWE was excellent to deal with. The tracks now have about a 1000 hours on them and are showing signs of wear. However, they spent that time clearing trees and brush from some prime bottom land. Without them I would have only been able to work that project for a couple months (July & August) here in northern MN. With the Camso tracks on a Case 220, I started in late April and finished in September. Wet weather was not and issue. I'd say my flotation was improved 1000%.
Thanks for viewing Albert!
Mark Miller (4 months ago)
What about buying a used machine
E6 Swine & Cattle (4 months ago)
OTT rubber tracks eat my nuts plowing snow. Feeding hay in the mud, the loader is a tank. Looking at a new loader now and am for sure get a track loader this time.
jasper fatty (4 months ago)
Great Advice @2:30 ....Absolute Truth.
Thank you !
James Krahn (4 months ago)
When i was about 6 years old my dad had a skidsteer with what I remember where tracks over tires
kvmosley79 (5 months ago)
I didn’t hear it mentioned but a major advantage of track machines is lifting capacity, a lot more.
BizarreSmalls (5 months ago)
My dad just got 2 new Cat 289D loaders with tracks. They also offer a similar track system to the ASV positrack (found that out a few minutes ago), but he got the standard track system. His business does commercial concrete (for the most part. Also some construction and site grading) so it involves lots of rock, concrete chunks, and more. The positrack system from the VERY LITTLE I have researched, doesn't do as well in that environment, but does as well or better in a more residential or landscapng business or something that doesn't deal with stone as much. So it just depends on what you're doing with them. He also has a smaller wheeled machine he uses for things like a street sweeper and as a shop machine, or even for if he needs in smaller areas.
Dustin Bayer (5 months ago)
Ghel is slow but very strong so yes there good
Burt Brooks (5 months ago)
I second the once u go tracks u never go back tires SUCK!!! Except pushing snow they’re better n hard snow fo sho!!! But Takeuchi 150 with tracks I’ll put it up against ANY skid steer on the market ONLY one I’ve ran that can take a 25 ton load of stone right thru the middle of it and come thru other side of the pile loaded they are kinda hard to work on but they don’t break hardly so u ain’t working on it much anyway 👍👍 We have 20 bobcats and I can not stand them no power they are easy to sell tho everyone wants a bobcat lol!! Jesus power 👊
Shan Sandaruwan (5 months ago)
did anybody ever tell you that you sounds like Donald Trump?
Garrett Elder (5 months ago)
Would I want tracks or tiers for goin up and down steep hills?
Ash Irrelevent (5 months ago)
As someone who just purchased 30 acres on a mountain in the pacific northwest,would i be okay using a track like the Bobcat 180? The property is mostly up and down with a few mild grade cutouts. I just dont see any reason to invest in a Kaboda or John Deere tractor when it may tip over. I would mostly be using it for pushing dirt, maybe hooking a gas powered brush hog to the front of it. Doing lots of brush and tree dragging, possibly digging out tree stumps. Using the bucket to smooth area that i want to put a tree orchard in. Opinions???
Jason Sutton (6 months ago)
Great Videos Stanley! Really appreciate how you put these together. Also, glad to hear you say! God Bess ....so God Bless you too!
Seth Diabira (6 months ago)
Tracks
jafarmartin (6 months ago)
Very helpful...thank you.
Thanks ! Glad it was helpful!
david smith (6 months ago)
I'm from England what would be a good skid steer a a ternative because we don't have skid steers in England
Just Wayne (20 days ago)
Of course you can get skid steers in the UK,
Tim Hottinger (6 months ago)
I also have over the tire metal tracks. Dont waste your money. They dont last that long and always have to adjust. Not to mention if you have a flat tire. The time wasted taking tracks off and back on .
Tim Hottinger (6 months ago)
I have 2 new holland skidsteer Ls 160 and ls180 Both are tire machines. I bought a set of loegering track systems for both machines. I can switch them out if needed. But I use tires on 160 and tracks on 180. Tracks added 3200 lbs to each machine. The 180 is like a tank. I've had it stuck 1 time . Its hard to do.
Zule (6 months ago)
You misunderstood me when I said I know my way around a ho
E30worx (6 months ago)
anyone else running an s185 with 60hp kubota
Royce Gaida (6 months ago)
Got any videos on grubbing mesquite trees and associated attachments?
Royce Gaida (6 months ago)
Great video, tks
Thanks Royce, appreciate you watching
Brian T (6 months ago)
Would trade my wife in before my Takeuchi TL10. Great machine and always tracks. Agree with midsize comment. Nice post.
John barfneck (6 months ago)
id like to have one with all the attachments........trencher/backhoe/post hole /forks/plow/bucket so on and so on........
John barfneck (6 months ago)
the one you can afford and maintain......
John barfneck (6 months ago)
bobcat...........caterpillar. enough said.
Vincent Phelps (6 months ago)
ha I have that dp max effort shirt. I will finish watching this now.
1776 Patriot (7 months ago)
I’ve done considerable research and Cat with tracks seems to beat everyone.
jesse drewry (7 months ago)
Is it just me or does this guy look like Richard Rawlings
Jeremy Taylor (7 months ago)
Have you ever do a video on say top 5 piece of equipment to buy from first to last for an up start excavation company and the reasoning behind the opinions?
Luc Godin (7 months ago)
The company I work for has both a tracked machine and a tired machine the tracked one is way better in my opinion
Reed Shachoy (7 months ago)
Tracks all day
I need your expertise. I am looking at a 2012 Terex pt30 tomorrow for 18k with 1415 hrs. I had it for one day doing construction clean up(brick,concrete) and will be using it for construction clean up, it has rubber tracks and fell in love with it. Do you recommend this piece of equipment with the hours and year?
Bauer Graczyk (7 months ago)
Where are you based in mn
Joseph Brzozowski (7 months ago)
Have several machines 2 mid frames and 2 large. We only have machines with tires which works well for us in landscaping. Have rented track machines on occasion to grade steep yards. We do have a 873 bobcat that is set up to run steel tracks and the traction is great but we only use early spring and late fall as it is very hard on the machine. It has broken several axels as a result. That makes for an interesting day loading a three wheeled machine on a trailer to go the the mechanic.
Mower Man gx85 (8 months ago)
Go with the terex PT50 XD
Mower Man gx85 (7 months ago)
Stanley “Dirt Monkey”Genadek ‘s channel
Where can i find this review?
Mower Man gx85 (7 months ago)
Look up Stanley dirt monkeys review on it, I agree with him
Mower Man gx85 i am very very close on purchasing a terex pt30. Wth rubber tracks for construction clean up. What do you think?
bailey minugh (8 months ago)
You didn't talk at all about those that buy used and do service and repairs. I personally never have anything to deal with the dealers
James Payne (8 months ago)
Just had to chime in on this one. I'm by no means as experienced as many operators may be. I've got around 2000 hours in wheeled Bobcats and probably 5000 hours in tracked machines. Primarily all 3200+ hours in our Takeuchi TL 140 plus another couple thou in various other CTL's we've used over the years. I will say that I can see where a wheeled machine would be the right choice, blacktop, hardpan, high speed finish grade work with a harley rake for seed bed or sod prep, but other than that, I'll take tracks every time. If I have to work on asphalt with my CTL, I spread some of the spoil across the area to give my tracks some slip and I try to minimize the distance from the pile to the dump and angle the truck to reduce the turning required. In the soft stuff, the tracks can't be beat. I've had the wheeled loaders with steel and rubber overtracks and while they work pretty good while the tires are new, they really turn into a liability when the tracks start slipping on worn tires, or God Forbid, you don't foam fill your tires and get a flat inside the tracks....nightmare scenario. I'd love to run one of the Cat 299's, to go with my Cat 304C CR mini Ex, but I really find the Cab's of the Cat CTL's to be a little small and cramped. I'm really interested in the new Kubota SVL 95 series. I sat in one a couple weeks ago and it was much more spacious and had excellent sight lines. The fact that many machines in the market utilize Kubota engines for their own machines speaks volumes for the Kubota brand itself. While it's like pulling teeth to get my bosses to realize the value of many of the work tools available for these machines, there is no denying the value these tools bring to a jobsite. While I spend a great deal of time running a backhoe in the commission of my job, I'd much rather be using my mini Ex and CTL to get the job done. Anyone in the market for one of these machines owes it to themselves to go to one of the construction expos or demo days events to try out the machine they are considering spending a small fortune on. They all look pretty similar, and they all do the same kind of work, but the differences between machines, in my opinion, are significant enough to warrant a test drive. Enjoy your videos Stan, even if you are a little goofy. It's just the right touch. Keep em coming.
Alex Domatas (8 months ago)
If you do any snow removal I'd recommend wheels instead of tracks. Also if your climate has lots of freezing and thawing I'd recommend wheels for that as well because if you park the machine with the tracks full of Mud at the end of the day, you will come back in the morning and your track will lock right up. Also if you're on sites with lots of curbs or rigmatts you're going to peel out of the tracks...
Gee Frazier (8 months ago)
Thanks man for advice keep it going.
Liberty Evanko (9 months ago)
Tracks!
john w (9 months ago)
Or rent them, before you buy. That's the best way.
M D (9 months ago)
Thanks Stanley For the video ive got an old 1980 Bobcat 631 Twin cylinder deuz aircooled Tire machine still going strong And as you say mid size does all after 38 years theirs the proof
Aaron Freter (9 months ago)
Caterpillar produces the best SSL and CTL by far. Higher aquisition cost with CAT but if you compare lifetime cost and resale values they win everytime. A skateboard has better suspension than a Bobcat or Kubota with their welded roller frames. CAT has triple flange idlers and rollers (less psi / longer belt life) with suspended torsion axle roller frame. Anything else feels like you are running a red flyer wagon and they beat themselves into the ground. CAT is the only brand that offers a single piece pressurized cab. Dust free and quiet with instant access to entire hydraulic system and belly pans. The other guys have fun pulling the rops, seat, consoles and plates to get to a hydraulic repair. Bobcats have belt driven pumps meaning dead in the water when it breaks or loses tension. CAT is direct drive off the crank and they have the most hydraulic horsepower. What about vertical lift vs radial lift? If you plan on being in buisiness for the next five years go Caterpillar. If not go rent something untill the time is right.
Gale Hess (4 months ago)
Cat has 0% 5 year financing with a guaranteed buy back price so you can lock down financials and see about what the next unit will run (if you can guess what they will cost in 5 years).
Leader success ! (9 months ago)
Awesome video thumbs up ☺
KFStreich (9 months ago)
Thanks for the video, I need a skid steer for personal use and had a hard time with tired machine, but the older ones are cheaper!
Hulk Brogan (9 months ago)
CASE = Can't Afford Serious Equipment.
Dr. Todd Fisher (9 months ago)
Where is the Must Have List?
Great advise. Keep those videos coming.
Frank Ryan (9 months ago)
I've bought wheels and tires from MWE. Quick and pretty competitive from what I could tell. 10-16.5 Solid Tires.
homophora (9 months ago)
Had a cat 236b2 with grouser style OTT. Really tore up the ground with the OTT. Replaced it with a cat 259d ctl. IMO both did the same with the snowplow or snow bucket. Live in AK. Really like not having flats and the traction/floatation with the tracks is very nice. Tracks hate ice. No pavement or rock so the tracks look good with 2500 hours.
Tomas Mikalauskas (10 months ago)
10:01,thats what i have both track and weel
Nicholas Bower (10 months ago)
Awesome video!!!!
Untitled User (10 months ago)
My family owns an 07ish bobcat S250 (I believe full size frame) with tires. We bought it used (2000 hours) from sunbelt rentals for 8k in 09. We are on gravel and asphalt and sometimes dirt but never really mud. Ours does a great job. Only thing is we tipped it once putting a really heavy load to high and dumping. Only thing was a dent in the machine we were dumping into so we got off lucky. Never take it to a dealer we do all our oil changes in house and have a service guy come out once every few years. Tires are really expensive though remember that. We just spent about 1k on a new set after blowing one on something in the gravel.
Toby Redwood (10 months ago)
What are JCBS skidsteers like?
kj (10 months ago)
If you plan to use a dozer blade attachment 30-40% of the time would you opt for a tracked machine? Normal home Joe, have a kubota 3130HST with backhoe, grapple, etc but never ran a skid steer. Looking to move larger stumps, logs, more dirt, and build/ maintain a personal motocross track. Would be selling my tractor for 1 skid steer, would you say a track machine is what I'm looking for? Not for hire, pure property maintnance.
Chase Janus (10 months ago)
All depends on what you mostly do. only problem i find with tracks is reinstall and if you pop a track its a pain in the ass otherwise they float better push harder and just make an awsome machine
LUKE MANCL (10 months ago)
Could you do a video of comparing the Ventrac to a skid steer?
spankymcflych (10 months ago)
Asphalt - tires, dirt - tracks. Bobcat>cat>case>johndeere. johndeere... I treid when they were first getting into skid steers and they sucked hardcore. Loud, cramped, poor view, ackward. ug. unless things have changed don't go johndeere for skid steers.
Feed Me Your Tears (10 months ago)
I work on a family farm in central South Dakota, and I'm looking at buying a skid steer without breaking the bank. $27,500 is my budget ceiling. Need to be able to lift Seed boxes (3,000 lbs) and chemical totes (3000 lbs) around the yard. I will also be getting a rock bucket for it and picking rocks out of fields with it. What direction/brand should i go with?
4schitzangiggles (10 months ago)
Make the operator who throws/breaks a track fix it and they won't do it again. I'm not sure why you don't like tracks on concrete/hard surfaces, I find tires hop way worse than tracks ever will and especially on asphalt on a hot summer day tracks don't tear up the driveway or road surface like a tired skid loader does. Bobcat makes some meh equipment and especially their tracked skid loaders as they use a design that isn't very friendly for maintenance and repair. I do like the JCB/Volvo tracked loaders and the ditch witch mini tracked loaders
rustys dirtworks (10 months ago)
Tracks, we do extreme bushhogging with our New Holland track loader, tires cant take the thornes, and sharp stobs that gives machines with tires total fits.
strasnpfostn (10 months ago)
Would be cool if you culd do a similar video on plate compactors as well, I'd like to see what you are using, because atually I'm looking into buying one myself right now...
OnSiteTrav (10 months ago)
Everyone needs a skid.

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