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Why the street gang MS-13 is an American problem

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We need to separate fact from fiction about MS-13. Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO It’s one of Trump’s favorite talking points: how the gang MS-13 is taking advantage of loose immigration laws and spreading violence and drugs. But is the gang really invading the country, and is it a growing problem? In our latest Vox + ProPublica collaboration, we break down all the talk about MS-13 and separate fact from fiction. For more reporting on MS-13, check out ProPublica reporter Hannah Dreier’s piece here: https://www.propublica.org/article/ms-13-immigration-facts-what-trump-administration-gets-wrong and Vox’s Dara Lind’s here: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/26/16955936/ms-13-trump-immigrants-crime And sign up here for ProPublica's Big Story newsletter to get their best reporting in your inbox as soon as it’s published: https://go.propublica.org/bigstorynewsletter-20180720 In our Vox+ProPublica collaboration, we create deep-dive, investigative video storytelling fueled by ProPublica's reporting. You can read the reporting at https://www.propublica.org, and watch the rest of the series on YouTube at http://bit.ly/2wfVG5Z. Vox.com is a news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Check out http://www.vox.com. Watch our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/IZONyE Follow Vox on Facebook: http://goo.gl/U2g06o Or Twitter: http://goo.gl/XFrZ5H
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Michael Robertshaw (9 hours ago)
"the long island MS-13 gang is super sweet and sensitive type".... proceeds to kill man on subway platform. OH... ok.
Tuff Inc. (1 day ago)
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Diogenes of Sinope (1 day ago)
Cole Pendarvis (1 day ago)
This video sounds more like a defense of MS-13 than an informative video
Monae Ray (1 day ago)
Wow, these comments are something....
Frank Hendricks (3 days ago)
That being said, it don’t make much sense to put all those tattoos on a “dead” body. Also, it will ease the burden on tax payers by not filling our prisons and jails with “illegal “ tough guys. Shooting them on the streets sounds better.
Frank Hendricks (3 days ago)
I have the solution to the “ trash” problem. Give police total autonomy and give them the freedom to shoot the “tough guys” on site. No more arrests and no more court trials. Just one bullet to the head. Let see how tough they are then. Or, pay me a salary and let me do it. Let’s start hunting them. .
J W (5 days ago)
The video summed up: "MS-13 are actually pretty alright dudes!"
Just1 (5 days ago)
Trump has my blessings to take them scumbags out!!
Ramon Gutierrez (7 days ago)
these people are defending these idiots and ms-13 is a really huge problems its one of the biggest gangs and not only that they are a part of the surenos
Larry Bird (10 days ago)
Viva La Trece 🤘
Fernando a.g.o (12 days ago)
Brando Escobar (12 days ago)
M-S 13 is not a cartel group They're not known for selling drugs or bringing drugs to this country as lets say some mexican cartels What members of the ms do is the so called "RENT" which means they go around telling people of their own community to give them money or they will kill them Must of the people are afraid of them and do give them the money but those who refuse too. It doesnt go to good for them The acts that they do here are nothing compared to what they do over there. Is much worse we have tons of corrupt cops, corrupt mayors and so on Pandilleros or gangster as you rather call them pretty much rule the country and they do what they want, What trump is doing is using this problem to trigger every single undocumented immigrants saying they're all the same and that's not true, yes MS 13 is bad and it should be exterminate it but so are tons of other gangs is the country.
William Soper (23 days ago)
ms -13 apologists, I am grateful for the second amendment.
Stan (24 days ago)
I personally know an MS-13 member. I work with him...he's a chef...he has a "side business" but he's not a bad dude. Don't believe the hype.
Stitch Hall (24 days ago)
Actually I see a target!! I know who they are. I’ve been to El Salvador where they originated! If I run into one. Hope he has his own body bag!!
lllHyPhEnlll (24 days ago)
Very strange. That gang I know for a fact was born in EL Salvador. Yet they lie here.
Kreigstank WoTB (22 days ago)
jefri mejia (25 days ago)
But no one talks about how racist some people are like like that white person who killed the Muslims on that church and the black church
Lucid Illusions (26 days ago)
Ms 13 is a joke most Mexicans hate those lames.
All captured MS-13 members should be publicly executed, make examples of them
GOD (28 days ago)
*Vox is just a fancy Infowars.*
Michael Cheng (29 days ago)
Next, ISIS is actually just misunderstood
ggnoobsnore (7 days ago)
Way to completely miss the point.
klepetar (1 month ago)
a bunch of losers
The1king15 (1 month ago)
Lmaoooo some cousins of mine can’t go to school cuz of them
Ricky Garcia (1 month ago)
Um are you all just stupid or ignorant? Do you guys just want to believe this?
Henri McKeown (1 month ago)
Chelsea mass
Igor (1 month ago)
If you want to learn some truth about MS 13 find the podcast FBI Retired Case File Review episode with Bob Clifford on MS 13.
Sans Undertale (1 month ago)
Vox, I’ve read fanfiction that’s more real and trustworthy than you.
YuniQ9 Gaming (1 month ago)
Need anòther billion dollars for your videos to become trustworthy? Bundles of twigs!
Aaron (1 month ago)
Do one on EMF please
Cigo (1 month ago)
F*ck Im dumbfounded, I live in One of the 3 most targeted places for MS-13
My God the propoganda!
Robert 97 (1 month ago)
What about the 2 girls on Long Island that where mutilated by ms-13 members.
tony v (1 month ago)
Just because they are born here does not make them Americans
Go Trump (1 month ago)
Ship them all out!!!! Build that big beautiful wall!
Squrd11sq Fg (1 month ago)
We pissing on me dead homies that's on dead end ws harppyes
um ok (1 month ago)
the side of MS13 the media doesn’t show u ✨💞
jcbx77 (1 month ago)
I'm not even republican, but my family is from El Salvador, Vox morons have it wrong! MS13 is a dangerous gang.
WhiteBoy Swag (1 month ago)
Lies. Vox said they're just little kids on bikes
Albino Natividad (1 month ago)
Why are you defending ms13? I wish these ms1e will live in your house.
El Casper (1 month ago)
The crips have 35000 buth crips and blood have different sets and crips fight against crips because they are different crip gangs . So that means that crips gangs are not bigger than ms13.whit ms13 that’s not the case .ms13 is only one gang
iAppleOut (1 month ago)
just kill them all trump please
Lonewolfxx7 (1 month ago)
I lived in the community on LI that MS13 killed kids, I was raised with people who had family that were murdered by MS13, so spare me this poor MS13 schtick
Abdikarim Maximiliano (1 month ago)
and now where do you live in
weijun low (1 month ago)
To those who said that people who complain did not watch the video go watch the video from 3.14 and see your own bias
Richard Soto (1 month ago)
I appreciate the video. Their is a misconception here with MS-13 solely because of Trump and his fear mongering. Scare white ladies about these 5'2 MS-13 gang members. Great job.
sunnydaze80 (1 month ago)
amazed at how the nuance and complexity of the went over so many people's heads.
Cedar Poplar (1 month ago)
If you 'adopt' "gang style", you will have to back up what YOU think YOU want to stand for; a "Wannabe" is just as sorry as those damn cockroaches who think publicity is doing them a favor.
So America starts a war in El Salvador displaces millions them complain when they come to America.. How twisted and sick are white people
Super T (1 month ago)
What about all those articles and nat geo documentaries about ms 13 being equal to Aryan brother and black gorilla's in violence and crime
Super T (1 month ago)
Woah what is going on
linda cinnante (1 month ago)
Hola (1 month ago)
Hola (1 month ago)
Lloren putos puro *MS 13*
Daniel Villagra (1 month ago)
This is despicable! Terrible reporting and spin on what MS-13 members are like.
ggnoobsnore (7 days ago)
+Daniel Villagra you're actually making my point for me so thanks, child
Daniel Villagra (7 days ago)
+ggnoobsnore: how about the 50 million babies that have been slaughtered in the last 50 years by the Alt-Left. I'm not defending one party or the other but dont play those games cause they're childish
ggnoobsnore (7 days ago)
They said ms13 commits horrific crimes. What they take issue with is the how their impact has been blown out of proportion. Alt-right incels have killed more white Americans than ms13 has
Mind-Eye (1 month ago)
If you align with this gang in anyway, even in spirit, you are marked for death. The will of the people shall become the law.
OVI-Wan Kenobi (1 month ago)
It's an "American born problem" because the US let in these "undocumented" migrants to begin with.
OVI-Wan Kenobi (1 month ago)
This is pathetic. New low for FAKE NEWS.
Arlex Marín (2 months ago)
Nice comment section!
Gerardo Rodriguez (2 months ago)
Just like rich people have there own hospitalsl. They have a private hospital with private doctors private money. a private organization...all u need is a way to keep making babys. 🤔 basically somewhere underground theres people making evil babys...
Gerardo Rodriguez (2 months ago)
Gerardo Rodriguez (2 months ago)
Fillup Dwong (2 months ago)
Remember when America forgot god cause multiple genocides. I do
Butchy Rantz (2 months ago)
Get your facts straight before publishing this blatant crap. You shouldn't mislead Americans to thinking that Trump is the bad guy for saying bad things about this gang. This video is exactly what is wrong with America. Liberal Disease
Huffman Collins (2 months ago)
"Ms 13 isn't growing like news stations say it is, so they aren't that bad"
Andi Gomez (2 months ago)
My mom grew up in El Salvador during the civil war. She says there wasn’t any gang violence before the war and now El Salvador is full of gang violence. It’s disgusting what MS-13 does, I literally have family that’s been killed by them, and family that’s joined them. They are horrible, and maybe their aren’t as many as them as any other gang in the U.S, but rest assured, they’re just as evil.
Guillermo Riano (2 months ago)
Please stop defending gangs.
jack (2 months ago)
Dumb, biased, and unrealistic Way to throw away any and all credibility as a “news” outlet
SABAREESH M (2 months ago)
But they were immigrants too.
23Jasun (2 months ago)
VOX lost me with this!!!
Einveru (2 months ago)
trump is far more problematic than ms-13
EG 95 (2 months ago)
MS 13 was formed in LA because the Mexicans were taking advantage of them. Then they got deported back to El Salvador were they got more people to join there. The reason they are savages was because they were made up of people going through some what of a war in El Salvador a war that was caused by the Cold War where Russia was trying to turn certain countries communists and the US wouldn’t allow it so they gave people in El Salvador military training
John Covered (2 months ago)
After thorough investigation by these journalist they can not even provide a solution. Voxshite news ever!!!
1234 (2 months ago)
Are most of the MS 13 gangs members from the central Latin countries mentioned? Im honestly trying to understand - are there Anglo, african American and Arab members as well? Because if this is a uniquely American problem, I would like to know how most of the members seem to be from the same community and why it seems to sustain them. I feel like if Vox reported that as well, would we the viewer have more of a complete picture of the ms13 situation in the US
Filipino Mapper (3 months ago)
For once Trump is right. But the solutions he's taking ain't gonna fix it. Cause MS-13 has little care of people. So yeah, I don't know much, but judging by the comments They aren't a single bit friendly
Jimeth (3 months ago)
How are undocumented, illegal immigrants American? By that logic you could say 911 was committed by Americans because the terrorists were in America at the time! What utter nonsense.
Ng Jun Xiang (3 months ago)
Are all you winger American's in the comments idiots? Vox isn't saying that MS13 isn't a problem. They are saying the problem that's being touted like migrant infiltrations and massive uprisings are not true, and that you should be focussing on issues that are true.
Cins San (3 months ago)
Whoever put this video together has smoked waaaaaayyyy too much pot. So much that they lost a lot of brain cells and I agree with everyone else here that says that they need to travel to el Salvador and spend time with the gang
uzhair air atmosphere (3 months ago)
1st time agreed for what Trump said
Guy Andrews (3 months ago)
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit... Okay Vox. They are angels...
Leon Blanco (3 months ago)
Tomcat Tomcat (3 months ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Tomcat Tomcat (3 months ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Tomcat Tomcat (3 months ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Ericanerk Spring (3 months ago)
Wtf is an ms 13
EpixDevo (3 months ago)
Microsoft 13 Terrorizing our boarders
Nostear (3 months ago)
Anthony R (3 months ago)
I’m waiting for the “Hitler wasn’t that bad of a guy” video
Nelson Umanzor (3 months ago)
All these comments are stupid lol 😂
Terminator Baby (3 months ago)
They work with american gangs
Kevin Bergin (3 months ago)
So less a violent murderous street gang more misunderstood young men who like to ride their bikes around town. I feel safer already.
Cameron Sweeney (3 months ago)
Love how they claim it's American born... um no it's central American born because they came to America and set up shop there. It's like creating a business that's made by british guys for a british audience and its HQ is in Singapore don't mean it's Chinese. That just what a part of globalisation is. Also love the low key undertone of how Vox are sympathisers of MS13, who behead people in Mexico and some of the countries mentioned...with chainsaws. Yes chainsaws. And vox likes that because they clearly hate Americans, especially when they leave out the fact that MS13 is in Mexico also because we all know vox is leftist and want Mexicans to come into the USA. Did you also notice how they mention the Crips as to make a lie about how MS13 aren't gaining members. Like the bloods and the crips are a 90s problem. Why are they relevant now? They even admit it to be fair, but saying that normal teens want to look like snoop dogg or a gang member it's some funny bullllllllshhhit... What else is bullshit? Making out MS13 as just normal teens who go to school
Jacob Hanna (3 months ago)
It’s the lack of sophisticated command and control that makes them so dangerous. Drug cartels only rarely commit open violence in the US because it is bad for business. MS13 has no similar motivation to limit their violence. While traditional gangs exist to make money, MS13 exists to rape and murder. As for the similarities to other teenagers, no one should be surprised: evil is often banal. That’s in America. In El Salvador they’ve begun infringing on the territory of the state, and the violence, though often indiscriminate, is directed: aimed at controlling the populace.
Ryan Mills (3 months ago)
Why are you guys trying to humanize these gang members?
Ryan Mills (3 months ago)
Death to all MS-13 gang members!
Nelson Umanzor (3 months ago)
Lol 😂
señor bolainas (3 months ago)
You’re such an idiot if you believe that the only thing that cartels do is sell drugs.
L K (3 months ago)
I mean nothing of what this video is saying is false, I mean their info has been backed up by other sources.
Victim narrative.
Olivia Seong (3 months ago)
wow wow they are basically defending them.....okay then
Nelson Umanzor (3 months ago)
Lol 😂
Conquintzy (3 months ago)
Why are they even trying to make us feel good about them?
MS-13 is an international terrorist gang we don't need them here they are dangerous. DHS find them and deport them we don't need MS-13 on american soil.
Boks (3 months ago)
ryan vo (3 months ago)
Send them to re education camps

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