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Why the street gang MS-13 is an American problem

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We need to separate fact from fiction about MS-13. Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO It’s one of Trump’s favorite talking points: how the gang MS-13 is taking advantage of loose immigration laws and spreading violence and drugs. But is the gang really invading the country, and is it a growing problem? In our latest Vox + ProPublica collaboration, we break down all the talk about MS-13 and separate fact from fiction. For more reporting on MS-13, check out ProPublica reporter Hannah Dreier’s piece here: https://www.propublica.org/article/ms-13-immigration-facts-what-trump-administration-gets-wrong and Vox’s Dara Lind’s here: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/26/16955936/ms-13-trump-immigrants-crime And sign up here for ProPublica's Big Story newsletter to get their best reporting in your inbox as soon as it’s published: https://go.propublica.org/bigstorynewsletter-20180720 In our Vox+ProPublica collaboration, we create deep-dive, investigative video storytelling fueled by ProPublica's reporting. You can read the reporting at https://www.propublica.org, and watch the rest of the series on YouTube at http://bit.ly/2wfVG5Z. Vox.com is a news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Check out http://www.vox.com. Watch our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/IZONyE Follow Vox on Facebook: http://goo.gl/U2g06o Or Twitter: http://goo.gl/XFrZ5H
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Huffman Collins (8 days ago)
"Ms 13 isn't growing like news stations say it is, so they aren't that bad"
Andi Gomez (11 days ago)
My mom grew up in El Salvador during the civil war. She says there wasn’t any gang violence before the war and now El Salvador is full of gang violence. It’s disgusting what MS-13 does, I literally have family that’s been killed by them, and family that’s joined them. They are horrible, and maybe their aren’t as many as them as any other gang in the U.S, but rest assured, they’re just as evil.
Guillermo Riano (13 days ago)
Please stop defending gangs.
jack (14 days ago)
Dumb, biased, and unrealistic Way to throw away any and all credibility as a “news” outlet
SABAREESH M (14 days ago)
But they were immigrants too.
23Jasun (14 days ago)
VOX lost me with this!!!
Einveru (15 days ago)
trump is far more problematic than ms-13
EG 95 (20 days ago)
MS 13 was formed in LA because the Mexicans were taking advantage of them. Then they got deported back to El Salvador were they got more people to join there. The reason they are savages was because they were made up of people going through some what of a war in El Salvador a war that was caused by the Cold War where Russia was trying to turn certain countries communists and the US wouldn’t allow it so they gave people in El Salvador military training
John Covered (23 days ago)
After thorough investigation by these journalist they can not even provide a solution. Voxshite news ever!!!
1234 (24 days ago)
Are most of the MS 13 gangs members from the central Latin countries mentioned? Im honestly trying to understand - are there Anglo, african American and Arab members as well? Because if this is a uniquely American problem, I would like to know how most of the members seem to be from the same community and why it seems to sustain them. I feel like if Vox reported that as well, would we the viewer have more of a complete picture of the ms13 situation in the US
Filipino Mapper (26 days ago)
For once Trump is right. But the solutions he's taking ain't gonna fix it. Cause MS-13 has little care of people. So yeah, I don't know much, but judging by the comments They aren't a single bit friendly
Jimeth (27 days ago)
How are undocumented, illegal immigrants American? By that logic you could say 911 was committed by Americans because the terrorists were in America at the time! What utter nonsense.
Ng Jun Xiang (27 days ago)
Are all you winger American's in the comments idiots? Vox isn't saying that MS13 isn't a problem. They are saying the problem that's being touted like migrant infiltrations and massive uprisings are not true, and that you should be focussing on issues that are true.
Cins San (28 days ago)
Whoever put this video together has smoked waaaaaayyyy too much pot. So much that they lost a lot of brain cells and I agree with everyone else here that says that they need to travel to el Salvador and spend time with the gang
simply uzair (28 days ago)
1st time agreed for what Trump said
Guy Andrews (1 month ago)
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit... Okay Vox. They are angels...
Leon Blanco (1 month ago)
Tomcat Tomcat (1 month ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Tomcat Tomcat (1 month ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Tomcat Tomcat (1 month ago)
The republicans the ms 13 of the new age Wow 😮
Ericanerk Spring (1 month ago)
Wtf is an ms 13
EpixDevo (1 month ago)
Microsoft 13 Terrorizing our boarders
Nostear (1 month ago)
Anthony R (1 month ago)
I’m waiting for the “Hitler wasn’t that bad of a guy” video
Nelson Umanzor (1 month ago)
All these comments are stupid lol 😂
Terminator Baby (1 month ago)
They work with american gangs
Kevin Bergin (1 month ago)
So less a violent murderous street gang more misunderstood young men who like to ride their bikes around town. I feel safer already.
Cameron Sweeney (1 month ago)
Love how they claim it's American born... um no it's central American born because they came to America and set up shop there. It's like creating a business that's made by british guys for a british audience and its HQ is in Singapore don't mean it's Chinese. That just what a part of globalisation is. Also love the low key undertone of how Vox are sympathisers of MS13, who behead people in Mexico and some of the countries mentioned...with chainsaws. Yes chainsaws. And vox likes that because they clearly hate Americans, especially when they leave out the fact that MS13 is in Mexico also because we all know vox is leftist and want Mexicans to come into the USA. Did you also notice how they mention the Crips as to make a lie about how MS13 aren't gaining members. Like the bloods and the crips are a 90s problem. Why are they relevant now? They even admit it to be fair, but saying that normal teens want to look like snoop dogg or a gang member it's some funny bullllllllshhhit... What else is bullshit? Making out MS13 as just normal teens who go to school
Jacob Hanna (1 month ago)
It’s the lack of sophisticated command and control that makes them so dangerous. Drug cartels only rarely commit open violence in the US because it is bad for business. MS13 has no similar motivation to limit their violence. While traditional gangs exist to make money, MS13 exists to rape and murder. As for the similarities to other teenagers, no one should be surprised: evil is often banal. That’s in America. In El Salvador they’ve begun infringing on the territory of the state, and the violence, though often indiscriminate, is directed: aimed at controlling the populace.
Ryan Mills (1 month ago)
Why are you guys trying to humanize these gang members?
Ryan Mills (1 month ago)
Death to all MS-13 gang members!
Nelson Umanzor (1 month ago)
Lol 😂
Enrique Peña Nieto (1 month ago)
You’re such an idiot if you believe that the only thing that cartels do is sell drugs.
L K (1 month ago)
I mean nothing of what this video is saying is false, I mean their info has been backed up by other sources.
Victim narrative.
Olivia Seong (1 month ago)
wow wow they are basically defending them.....okay then
Nelson Umanzor (1 month ago)
Lol 😂
Conquintzy (1 month ago)
Why are they even trying to make us feel good about them?
MS-13 is an international terrorist gang we don't need them here they are dangerous. DHS find them and deport them we don't need MS-13 on american soil.
Boks (1 month ago)
ryan vo (1 month ago)
Send them to re education camps
!めぐみ (1 month ago)
Bunch of savage animals!! Get rid of them. Jail isn’t good enough.
sonu singh (1 month ago)
really vox ?? really ??? god damn ...I dnt know what you guys have been smoking up there in America to talk in a sympathetic tone about those bastards.
Leon Bernhardt (1 month ago)
We must send Rapid Deployment US Military to guard our border ASAP. America must keep these violent criminals South of the border. They are infecting our neighborhoods and schools. They are lawless and show no sense decency. Build Massive Walls on our border and use technology such as drones and armored combat robots to prevent these criminals from coming into the US. They are hell bent on destroying the greatest country in the world. They would turn the USA into a mafia gang criminal hell.
Fenels (1 month ago)
Don't know about anybody else but your brother over here is in m14 gang
justrosie1 (1 month ago)
fernando torrera (1 month ago)
Selling illegal drugs is a billion dollar industry you will never stop the drug cartels because legal us citizens of various races help in transportation. Another thing most people don’t understand is that the biggest distributors have military training, in fact the gangs that started the over the top violence were former soldiers trained by the us army. They went into drugs when they no longer had a job. Make all drugs legal. Stop making whole countries suffer because Stacy or brad want to experiment.
At226499 (1 month ago)
Why does the world suck
Alexandre Cressard (1 month ago)
This Video is dangerous and irresponsible. You are fake news!
ELROBO ON YO MOM (1 month ago)
On my God
Gamecore (1 month ago)
I wouldn't be surprised if the US is backing these gangs like they did with Alkaida.
Justin Doan (1 month ago)
Using your own reporter as a source. Very great reporting...
Martial Artist (1 month ago)
What people won't tell you is the number 13 in MS stands for falling under the Mexican American Mafia made up of Hispanic Americans and Whites.
Jay Brown (1 month ago)
If i stand in front of a white wall im believeable. Dumb. What about the parents who had their children murdered?
Killing Joke (1 month ago)
Government should put a greenlight for US citizens to hunt them. Identify and hunt VOX is trash for sympathizing with these vermin.
the cHroNic nOize co. (1 month ago)
Juliette Aguirre (2 months ago)
vox makes them look so harmless wtffff
Juliette Aguirre (2 months ago)
la mara
Kommandant Karl (2 months ago)
Vox, when you have chief editors that vocally support riots and violence, this victimhood videos do not surprise me. Shouldn’t you guys hire them?
Alberto Catesta (2 months ago)
Imagine all the Trump dickriders that believe him LMAO
Laces (2 months ago)
oh we gonna try and humanize criminal gang members who are rapists and murderers now???
alan kasu (2 months ago)
You are reporting about MS13 on the east coast. I don't know anything about the east coast chapters but I do know that here in SoCal they are EVIL. You people need to pull your heads out of (your choice) and open your liberal eyes to see what is really the truth.
S Dog (2 months ago)
you can always make me laugh VOX - thanks....
River Man (2 months ago)
Background music is awesome and the narrators voice is perfect. Same with all Vox videos. Great work guys :)
Linda Lou (2 months ago)
Ha ha. Are u an MS 13 member or spokeswoman?
affinityforanime (2 months ago)
No! Really? The Trump administration got something factually wrong? *sarcasm*
BEANBOYS (2 months ago)
This video has the tone of, anti-trump and also pro ms-13
Gauthaman Koyamparambath (2 months ago)
Vox, you guys should do some.face to face interviews with ms13..... You could then prove that they are indeed all american citizens and nothing like what people say they are.... Get them a cake too to show them that you mean no harm.... You see dumbasses here dont understand that the ms13 is just a small gang of children who listen to music and chill on the streets. Dumbasses think they are a brutal and violent gang but you can prove otherwise.... Show all these retards how wrong they are...
Joey Kenyon (2 months ago)
" This is 100% an american born gang" Created by immigrants from El Salvador. Looks like we should of had tougher immigration laws and standers in the 80's
white powerade. (2 months ago)
Pretty rad all these rich white gurls telling me whats up with the esses i never knew they were such nice boys, i must have missed them in the pen.
Jack Cappello (2 months ago)
Smh yeah they out here riding on bikes just going to work lol.
Josh Kinsey (2 months ago)
So F'N ridiculous. That's right, go ahead and try to protect these savages. Pathetic.
Frans Salomonsson PAGY (2 months ago)
Vox video idea: Stalin wasn't that bad.
David Spearman (2 months ago)
So degenerates came here and started this. Great.
Ted Cleveland (2 months ago)
3:20 she probably doing the report on daytime, banging MS13 member at night. next time put a little more extra makeup to cover her drugs addiction
Ted Cleveland (2 months ago)
gang is gang, unless you're telling me the MS13 never commit a single crime, and all they did was teaching kids self defense on sunday morning.
Alex Is AWESOME Mig (2 months ago)
Trump is the best I hope everyone in ms 13 dies
Chico Lee (2 months ago)
I think people didn’t get this video they simply saying that America is making ms a bigger issue then it really is
R C (2 months ago)
This really sounds like you’re defending them
Albert Alfaro (2 months ago)
Yo stfup is the different gangs to stupid
Shantanu Verma (2 months ago)
These are the sweetest young boys..so what if they torture rape and kill at least they don't indulge drug trafficking. #VoxPropoganda
Focus RSN (2 months ago)
That’s what makes them dangerous is that they don’t have a leader they do as they please. The gang has actually grown , this video is old but they have grown. They are hired by many cartels usually Zetas or CDG they are known for violence on both sides of the border but here they actually get targeted and stopped.
AmazingSase (2 months ago)
The game of brainwash
AmazingSase (2 months ago)
Vox is more dangerous than MS13
jack sophia (2 months ago)
They shouldnt be allowed to spread genorationaly. Children infected by them should be taken and used against them. 7603271591 Mk ultra??
Sam Mac (2 months ago)
Don’t read through this comment section. Don’t.
Jim Brauer (2 months ago)
these are mainly illegals. build the wall and they can't come here as easily. oh and this channel is full of liberal logic that doesn't make sense
Trams Am (2 months ago)
Adiemi Irsyad (2 months ago)
This MS13 is nothing compared to my country the one who famous is MS88. Its a motorcyle helmet. LOL.
Luke Clough (2 months ago)
This is what happens when a company has 300+ employees and every single one of them has a self righteous horror story from 11/8/16... diversity is a thing, you know?!?!?
Lenny Corey (2 months ago)
It our problem...no no no...it's the democrats problem...and now it's the conservatives taken them down...
lala martha (2 months ago)
MS 13 is pure evil,conducting rape and brutal murder. Stop defending them, vox, disgusting.
Mini Wolf (2 months ago)
people like the ones at vox are the reasons why trump won.
Melkin (2 months ago)
Y es por ésto que todos los malditos Blancos ven a los todos los Hispanos como unos criminales. la mayoría viene para trabajar y salir adelante con su familia. así que pudranse perros !
Melkin (2 months ago)
Mara Salvatrucha !
sǝpnu puǝs (2 months ago)
MS 13 barely have a presence in the US. In El Salvador however, its completely different. Trump is uneducated about gangs and so are most people here. If there's any gang(s) that needs to be talked about by Trump its the bloods and crips. They're the most powerful and influential gangs in the US.
sǝpnu puǝs (2 months ago)
+Mike Castro Crips don't fight each other. They fight other gangs such as the bloods and the numerous Mexican street/prison gangs. They don't fear MS13. Mainly because MS13 members kill each other. MS13 are powerful in Central America not in the US. The MS 13 in American prisons are a minority compare to the Mexican sureños and northeños. They're about on the same level as the Latin Kings in terms of numbers. MS 13 have tried numerous times to become a powerful gang like the Mexican cartels, but they failed. They failed horribly. Turns out, having teens to smuggle drugs wasn't a good idea.
Mike Castro (2 months ago)
sǝpnu puǝs Bloods and crips fear MS. MS13 have ties to Central America, while crips fight each other. It seems like you're the one uneducated about gangs.
Daniel kim (2 months ago)
Are you guys stupid?
akidin06 (2 months ago)
that voice sounds too sweet for this topic
Addison Clarke (2 months ago)
Fear is a helluva drug. These comments are scary. God help America.
Mr Smarty-pants (2 months ago)
You should like a fool.. It's a prison gang with a high amount of influence in drugs.
KeyToSaraBe (2 months ago)
This video made me feel even more angry about the stupidity of our nation's leaders! The Trump administration probably does research but trump himself does not. He just says what he thinks is right it's ridiculous.
Yushi Wang (2 months ago)
So MS 13 was formed by ILLEGALLY IMMIGRATED el salvadorans. How is that America's problem??

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